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I read in the Moscow Times today that Medvedev signed the changes into law and they should be enacted within the next two weeks. So less worries about the local police using you as an involuntary contributer to their retirement fund. [clap.gif]

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I read in the Moscow Times today that Medvedev signed the changes into law and they should be enacted within the next two weeks. So less worries about the local police using you as an involuntary contributer to their retirement fund. [clap.gif]

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/arti ... 33599.html


The law was implemented as from today......
So, if they wish, the Russians can do something quickly...... [clap.gif]


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So, if they wish, the Russians can do something quickly...... [clap.gif]


But if they don't want to help.......... they reply to you in Russian ! [angry.gif]

That was a reply to the letter I sent to the president on the 8 February asking him to amend the immigration Law and allow the consulate to issue a 5 year Multi entry visa...... to the husband of Russian woman.

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 Post subject: Re: New registration rules in Russia from 15-02-2011
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All foreigners who arrive in ­Russia come up against a considerable number of questions connected with Russian legal regulation, starting with how to fill in the migration card correctly, and when they have to register at the place they are staying. Registration rules in the private sector change rather frequently, and recently, on March 20, 2011, President Dmitry Medvedev accepted Federal Law No. 42-FZ, which modifies the procedure for registration of foreign citizens and stateless persons. In this article we want to cover in detail how to be registered correctly under the new migration registration rules.

We begin with the migration card that every foreigner receives on crossing the border of the Russian Federation, which has to be filled in.

The migration card serves as a control over the time spent in the Russian Federation and contains two parts: entry and ex it (Parts А and В). Notes about arrival are made by border control officials. The filled-in "entry" Part А is taken from the foreign citizen at border control and passed on to immigration control. The "exit" half (Part B) with notes about the date of entry is kept by the foreign citizen for the whole stay in the Russian Federation and handed over to border control officials on departure from the Russian Federation. The migration card also serves as the document necessary for registration.

The next issue concerns visa registration. All foreign citizens who arrive on a Russian visa are obliged to notify the Federal Migration Service on arrival. However, this is the responsibility not of foreign citizens themselves, but of their receiving party — the person with whom the foreign citizen actually lives, or the organization in which the foreign citizen works. For foreign citizens staying in a hotel, the hotel administration will take all actions necessary to register them, but for those staying in the private sector, the receiving party should inform the Federal Migration Service of the foreigners' arrival.

Before acceptance of Federal Law No. 42-FZ, foreigners had to be registered within three working days of arrival in the Russian Federation. This period has now been extended to seven working days. Thus, from March 25 when the law comes into force, foreigners whose term of stay in the Russian Federation is less than seven days have the right not to register.

Those who are going to stay in Russia more than seven days should give a copy of their passport, a copy of their visa and the original of their migration card to their receiving party — either landlord or employer — to complete the registration formalities. The receiving party should go with these documents and the foreign citizen's filled-in registration form to the local FMS office or the nearest post office. They will put a stamp on the registration form saying it has been received, and return the tear-off part of the document to the receiving party.

The receiving party should return this tear-off part to the foreign citizen. This tear-off part with the FMS stamp is the confirmation that the foreign citizen has been registered. At departure, the foreign citizen gives the tear-off part of the registration form to the Immigration control at the departure port, thus effecting automatic deregistration.

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the term of the foreign citizen's temporary residence in the Russian Federation is determined by the period of validity of the issued visa. The foreign citizen is obliged to leave the Russian Federation at the end of the permitted term of stay.

Violation of the migration and registration regulations can entail administrative responsibility for the foreign citizen in the form of a fine of 2,000 rubles to 5,000 rubles, and in some cases deportation from the Russian Federation. For any foreign citizen who has been subject to deportation, entry to the Russian Federation can be denied for up to five years.

The changes in the law on migration registration concern responsibility for violating the registration regulations. Henceforth, persons who fail to register at the place they stay will be liable only when they were obligated themselves to give information about their own location, for example if they have ownership rights to residential property. However, a much more significant penalty is imposed on the receiving party for not fulfilling their responsibilities in connection with migratory registration: from 2,000 rubles to 4,000 rubles for citizens, from 40,000 rubles to 50,000 rubles for officials, and from 400,000 rubles to 500,000 rubles for legal entities.

However, from the moment of entry of law No. 42-FZ into force, registration of foreign employees at the office in which they work is once again permitted. Thus, from March 25, 2011, foreign citizens should be registered within seven working days, and in the column for the address of place of residence you can indicate either the apartment address in which the foreigner is staying, or the address of the firm's office.

This was posted on another website, and is a pretty accurate translation in "Easy to read/understand" terms about the new system in Russia regarding registration....
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Thus, from March 25 when the law comes into force, foreigners whose term of stay in the Russian Federation is less than seven days have the right not to register.


Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's seven working days?

I'll be testing it on my next trip as I arrive in Moscow on the 31st (following Monday is a Holiday) and will leave on the 10th of May (following another holiday) so I will only be in the country for five working days. We'll see how it goes and I'll report back if I have any difficulties on exiting...


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Thus, from March 25 when the law comes into force, foreigners whose term of stay in the Russian Federation is less than seven days have the right not to register.


Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's seven working days?

I'll be testing it on my next trip as I arrive in Moscow on the 31st (following Monday is a Holiday) and will leave on the 10th of May (following another holiday) so I will only be in the country for five working days. We'll see how it goes and I'll report back if I have any difficulties on exiting...


I cannot confirm 7 (Working) days at this point of time, but will seek clarification from our FMS just as soon as I can....
However, I would strongly reccomend that you do register, if only to be safe, and avoid any unpleasantness which may occur...
My reason for saying this, is because within the same law, it covers "Foreign Specialist Visa's", and the registration period for these is 90 days, NOT 90 WORKING days, so it is quiet possible that they mean 7 days, rather than 7 working days for other visa holders..
HTH..


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Thus, from March 25 when the law comes into force, foreigners whose term of stay in the Russian Federation is less than seven days have the right not to register.


Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's seven working days?

I'll be testing it on my next trip as I arrive in Moscow on the 31st (following Monday is a Holiday) and will leave on the 10th of May (following another holiday) so I will only be in the country for five working days. We'll see how it goes and I'll report back if I have any difficulties on exiting...

However, I would strongly reccomend that you do register, if only to be safe, and avoid any unpleasantness which may occur...
My reason for saying this, is because within the same law, it covers "Foreign Specialist Visa's", and the registration period for these is 90 days, NOT 90 WORKING days, so it is quiet possible that they mean 7 days, rather than 7 working days for other visa holders..
HTH..
I am 100% behind 59dotru on this i.e. registering As Soon As Possible.

I agree that registration is a pain in the derrière but In my opinion it is better to suffer a small amount of pain than to have to suffer a huge amount of pain if you get it wrong.

If staying in a hotel or another organisation that renders accommodation service they will register your visa automatically during the check-in process.

If you are staying in private accommodation then be prepared before you arrive.

Print out the registration forms to be found here Image the above link also provides information concerning all the other documents that you will need to provide (You can photocopy your migration card and the page with your visa and your latest entry stamp either in the Post-Office itself or they will tell you where you can do it (make the photo-copies).

In Yuzhno-Sakhalin my fiancée deals with my registration, I go to buy her some flowers.

Under normal circumstances (depending on the queue at the post office) she is waiting for me having completed the registration process.
The flower shop that I use for buying flowers during the registration process is less than 100 yards away from the post office, so it does not take me that long to walk to the flower shop and back to the post office.

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59dotru wrote:
wicheese wrote:
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Thus, from March 25 when the law comes into force, foreigners whose term of stay in the Russian Federation is less than seven days have the right not to register.


Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's seven working days?

I'll be testing it on my next trip as I arrive in Moscow on the 31st (following Monday is a Holiday) and will leave on the 10th of May (following another holiday) so I will only be in the country for five working days. We'll see how it goes and I'll report back if I have any difficulties on exiting...


I cannot confirm 7 (Working) days at this point of time, but will seek clarification from our FMS just as soon as I can....
However, I would strongly reccomend that you do register, if only to be safe, and avoid any unpleasantness which may occur...
My reason for saying this, is because within the same law, it covers "Foreign Specialist Visa's", and the registration period for these is 90 days, NOT 90 WORKING days, so it is quiet possible that they mean 7 days, rather than 7 working days for other visa holders..
HTH..


I have received confirmation this evening from a collegue of mine, that it is indeed 7 WORKING DAYS....
HTH


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I have received confirmation this evening from a collegue of mine, that it is indeed 7 WORKING DAYS....
HTH


Yes, that is a good thing as it takes the worry out of registering for short stays of only a week. Now with this being Russia, my Fiancee still printed out the law so I can carry with me when I exit immigration as I'll have been here 10 days, but only 4 working days.


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